Questions for the anti Alcoa Leaders and County Commissioners to answer

OK Tuesday is a meeting for the County Commissioners to discuss their latest attempt to thwart Alcoa's efforts to bring economic development to our County. I thought it would be appropriate to suggest six questions that they might answer:

1. Why do they get so exercised in talking about fictitious pollution from arsenic and PCB's when the real public health threats (if any) are sewage, fertilizer runoff, organic discharge of storm drains, other storm drain run off from upstream (including PCB's used to abate dust on gravel roads fifty years ago) livestock waste, bacteria and other biological issues. 

2. How many jobs and how much payroll is expected in the next five years?

3. What are the "Guarantees" of economic prosperity for the next 50 years? Alcoa was asked for and offered some guarantees, what do the County Commissioners have to offer in Guarantees with a Public private partnership, if in fact they can raise the funds to purchase private property?

4. What will be the tax base of a public private partnership to fund our County schools? Compare this to the Alcoa Clean Tech offer.

5. What is the pay back for the $5 million dollars in legal costs? Compare this to the Alcoa settlement offer last December.

6. How is this new approach going to make our County attractive to other businesses and industry that might want to consider locating in Stanly County? As of now, Stanly County is clearly "Anti Business" Large or small businesses.

Dick Storm

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Comment by Whigkid on July 28, 2012 at 2:53pm

I think the first question they need to answer is why the heck they think they have any business negotiating to sell property they don't own.  And when a private business, that clearly has every right to be a private business, just like every other hydroelectric project in this state, doesn't want to sell its property, why they think they have any business going ahead with it anyway, and putting ads in the paper to try to pressure the company to make a sale it doesn't want to make.

This is clearly local government interfering with business.  I used to think this was America, where any property owner had the right to decide if, when, and to whom they want to sell their property.  Maybe Stanly County has seceded from the Union and been annexed by Canada, which is clearly a more socialistic country.

Comment by Ann on July 28, 2012 at 3:24pm

I'd ask why none of the anti-Alcoa bunch ever bother to talk to the other relicensing stakeholders?

I'm not concerned about this half-baked idea going anywhere.  However, hypothetically speaking, if it did, AltaGas would not have the ability to meet all the terms of the RSA.  I think the stakeholders would have something to say about that.  We're all intervening parties with FERC, and, together, we could make quite a formidable complaint.

Comment by flowerchild on July 28, 2012 at 6:33pm

Hypothetically speaking --

Does this imply the Commissioners would drop their lawsuit against the water quality certificate, something they weren't willing to do for the Clean Tech jobs?  How would the water quality be any different with another name on the deed?

What would happen to the redevelopment of the Badin Business Park if Alcoa no longer had a business presence in the area?  What about all the environmental work Alcoa has been doing?  What about all Alcoa's other property?

What would happen if there were no longer any donations from Alcoa and the Alcoa Foundation to local projects?

Is AltaGas willing to match Clean Tech's donations to the school system?

Wouldn't AltaGas's profits go to Canada?

Comment by Don K. Hauté on July 28, 2012 at 8:58pm

Why doesn't Roger Dick sit down and SHUT UP?

I'm fed up with his endless parade of bizarre fantasies.

 

Comment by Vanessa Mullinix on July 31, 2012 at 10:58am

I just came from Stanly County Commissioner meeting where they discussed this AltaGas proposal.  They took no comments today and all I got from the meeting is they will let the public decide at the next commissioner meeting August 6. at 7pm.. We need HUNDREDS of people to show up and say loud and clear enough is enough settle with Alcoa and let them get their license for Stanly County and all the counties affected by the re-license. Two commissioners want to settle and move on. I myself want to move on. I'm tired of all the mistruths (lies). There should be something coming out in the paper and radio 1010am Albemarle. Spread the word and let's make them hear our voices.

Comment by Don K. Hauté on July 31, 2012 at 12:02pm

Did they say anything more specific?  The newspaper ad was extremely vague about what the AltaGas proposal is.  Are the two Commissioners still willing to settle, or have they gone back into the fold?  Seems like they were starting to discuss things with AltaGas about the same time as that vote.  It also seems funny that the newspaper ads seemed to have been planned for the two SNAP editions before today's Special meeting, before the Special meeting was announced.

Comment by Firebird on July 31, 2012 at 2:01pm

I also attended this meeting. It really amazes that out of the "wild blue" Alta-Gas contacts the Stanly County Commissioners, I really believe that someone behind the scenes (you know who I'm talking about)"nudged" Alta-Gas into contacting the Commissioners. I also don't understand how these Commissioners could discuss the sell of Alcoa's dams that Alcoa owns, pay taxes on, and maintain. This has gone on long enough and costed the taxpayers enough-settle with Alcoa. Let's pull together and put a stop to it-the Commssioners need to move on. Please attend the meeting on Monday, August 6 at 7 p.m. at Stanly Commons.

Comment by Whigkid on July 31, 2012 at 3:41pm

Would someone PLEASE report what the Commissioners said during the meeting.

Comment by Whigkid on July 31, 2012 at 3:49pm

BTW, if you look up AltaGas's holdings, there are only 3 in the U.S.  One is a 50% ownership of Craven County Wood Energy in New Bern, which I believe is the Gov's home town.

Comment by Vanessa Mullinix on July 31, 2012 at 4:33pm

The commissioners are split. Gene McIntrye and Josh Morton want to settle with Alcoa and quite spending our tax dollars so we can move on. Jan Lowder is the one that can change the vote. Tony Dennis and Lindsey Dunevant still have their heads up somewhere, you guess where. The commissioners took no comments from the people today said they would Monday night at regular meeting. The ad came out before they had discussed anything with the URRC must less Alcoa. How can you discuss sale of something that you don;'t own. They even mentioned letting the people decide.  Well if you are tired of the county wasting our tax dollars to make lawyers rich you need to come to the meeting and let them know it. Lindsey had alot to say about nothing. He semmed upset because Alcoa said the $5 million had to be spent on water infrasture.  Lindsey disagreed with that. I think most everyone would like to have county water. Where will they spend the money if it is not benchmarked. Tony Dennis will get voted out and I think we should ask Lindsey to resign. These two have lost all common sense. Jan could make the difference or she could keep following the rainbow to nowhere.

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